Category Archives: teaching high school civics (2000-2010)

an oral history interview

Our high school students interviewed a woman today who was one of only

two African Americans at an all-White junior high school in 1956, and

then the only one when her friend quit. She later chose to attend an all-Black

high school because she couldn’t stand the incessant (unprintable) racial

slurs and social ostracism. She related well with our kids (more than

half of whom were born in Africa), and gave them good arguments for voting

and otherwise participating. We also talked with the class about how to

present their historical research on their Website at www.princegeorges.org

and came up with ideas that excited both them and us.

the value of studying history

As usual, the most interesting part of my day is working with the class

of students at Northwestern High School. They interviewed a White teacher

who had taught in the County schools from 1968 to the present, as his

students changed from all White, to Whites plus one African American kid,

to almost exclusively children of color. The teacher claimed that this

change had occurred slowly enough that he hardly noticed it and that it

made no difference, since "teenagers are teenagers." He asked

the kids what they had learned in our class so far. Several said that

they had gained an appreciation of Prince George’s County. This is surprising,

since the history we have studied is mostly about racism and exclusion.

But one young woman said, "I thought it was the boringest county

ever." The fact that dramatic changes had occurred here made our

community seem interesting. The fact that the changes involved school

policies made the kids feel part of an important (and contested) institution.

And the fact that teenagers were sometimes protagonists in the civil rights

stuggle gave them a sense of their own power and responsibility. At least,

this is my interpretation of what the students said.

We have now conducted half a dozen interviews as a whole class or as

individuals. Meanwhile, I have been thinking a bit about historical method.

We have encountered several contrasting perspectives on the same events—especially

the arrival at Northwestern of one African American student in 1955, which

we’ve heard described by himself, his sister, and a teacher. It’s not

hard to see that there’s one truth about the past, albeit a complex one.

oral history of desegregation

I spent most of the morning advising a potential applicant for the Rhodes

Scholarship—something that I do on the side because I feel that Maryland

students need coaching. (We haven’t won since the mid-1970s.)

In the afternoon, our class at Northwestern

High School interviewed two people for our oral history project

on the desegregation of Prince George’s County schools. One interviewee

was the first African American student at the school. (He was still the

only one when he graduated three years later). He said: "Initially

I was actually hoping that it wouldn’t work. My parents had said that

if there was a lot of violence, we would back up. … Instead of violence,

there were three years of hostility." His main motivation was to

be "part of something bigger," the Civil Rights Movement. He

later became a successful chemical engineer. I found him enormously appealing—and

easily understood what he meant in his understated way, but the kids took

his reticence about his own emotions as evasiveness.

The second interviewee was a current member of the County Council, a

white man who was formerly a civil rights lawyer. He had sued to force

bussing in the county schools and then arranged the settlement that ended

bussing. He moved to the County in 1971, and his family was the only White

one in the local community. At a community meeting, "I said I was

a civil rights lawyer and I wanted to be active in the community."

A community leader said, "Man, you are a phenomenon. Most white people

are trying to move out of here." In the 1970s, roughly 100,000 African

Americans relocated to Prince George’s County (mostly from Washington),

and roughly 100,000 White people left—a pattern that continued for

the next 20 years. "Those folks who moved in the seventies were running

from black folks … In the eighties and nineties, it had more to do

with the aging of the population and the changing of circumstance."

People left for upper income housing and better schools.

"My dream in the early eighties was that this is the place where

we would make it work. This is the place where we would demonstrate to

America that it can work like it says in social studies books. Today I

would say that we are still working on that."

a first blog

Three scenes from my day:

9:10 am: In the Longworth House Office Building, sitting with two congressional staffers, my colleague Carrie, and one staffer’s seeing-eye dog—sharing information about youth voting. Congress has just established a program to promote youth participation in elections: young people will serve as poll-workers or will join in mock votes. The staffers who are meeting with us helped to draft the bill; now they want to make sure that it is well implemented. They seem interested in our data and our list of other people to contact. We suggest that the program needs to focus on high school kids who are not academically successful (because most college-bound students will vote anyway); and there ought to be young people on the appointed board. We are late for the meeting because we went to two incorrect offices before the found the right one—walking by way of various steam tunnels, back staircases, and corridors of power.

10:30 am: In an office loft on hip U Street, in a building occupied by a brewing company, a big gym, and many tech companies. I am in the offices of American Speaks, meeting with several new members of the steering committee of the helping to integrate the new folks into an ongoing organization that they have just agreed to join.

My personal goal is for several groups that use different methods for public deliberation (e.g., interactive websites, large face-to-face groups, simultaneous church-basement   conversations) to hold simultaneous national youth conversations on the following topic: “What should be young people’s role in public life?” Some possible answers: “Politics is irrelevant; young people should volunteer and participate in their families and communities.” “Politics is uniquely corrupt today, so we should await reform before we participate.” “There are new forms of ‘politics’ that we young people are inventing and that are better than the old ones.” “Politics is always a bit dirty and unpleasant, but it’s no worse than usual; and you have to play the game or your interests will be ignored.”

There seems to be considerable interest in the idea of a national deliberative exercise using several methods.

3:15 pm: At a High School in Hyattsville, MD, helping to teach a class on oral history. Our subject all quarter is the desegregation of the County’s public schools. We are three white teachers and our dozen students are African Americans, Latinos, and immigrants. (Exactly half of the day’s attendees were born in Africa.). The discussions are good, but often very intense and emotional. We are meeting today in the principal’s windowless conference room to accommodate an elderly visitor who cannot manage the steps to our usual classroom. The visitor is a retired postal worker and community activist who attended segregated schools in the county, but her younger brother was the first African American student at the high school where we are sitting, and was also part of the first group of Black students at the University of Maryland. Her sister integrated a local junior high school. Her mother (who had an 8th-grade education) sent these siblings alone into all-White schools, so I asked whether her mother was part of a social network of African Americans that  favored integration:

“[Shakes her head] It came from her. My mother always thought that our schools were  second-class. … There were not many people in our community who thought that way. … In the long run, in all instances, [desegregation] was not a better thing.”

I asked her whether she would have desegregated the schools, if she had been in charge of the school system back then: “I probably would have kept them segregated, and I would have demanded that the schools be given equal funding … I think that the teachers I had in the segregated schools were much more dedicated than the teachers I have seen since.”

I don’t know what to think about desegregation, but I believe our students are learning something about how to grapple with a complex, emotional social issue that deeply affects their interests.