{"id":4274,"date":"2003-08-27T12:07:19","date_gmt":"2003-08-27T12:07:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=4274"},"modified":"2003-08-27T12:07:19","modified_gmt":"2003-08-27T12:07:19","slug":"the-18th-century-comments-on-campaign-04","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=4274","title":{"rendered":"the 18th century comments on Campaign &#8217;04"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Written while stuck in the Manchester, NH, airport, and posted on<\/p>\n<p>Thursday): Imagine that some of the major political philosophers of<\/p>\n<p>the eighteenth century are observing modern politics from their permanent<\/p>\n<p>perches in Limbo. What would they say?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Edmund Burke:<\/strong> We should normally maintain the status<\/p>\n<p>quo (whatever it may be), since people have learned to adjust to it<\/p>\n<p>and it embodies the accumulated wishes and experiences of generations.<\/p>\n<p>I am especially skeptical of efforts to reform societies quickly by<\/p>\n<p>imposing ideas that came from other cultures or from the exercise of<\/p>\n<p>&quot;universal reason&quot; (as if there were such a thing). Good conservatives<\/p>\n<p>are hard to find today. This Newt Gingrich person represents the polar<\/p>\n<p>opposite of my views. Daniel Patrick Moynihan was sensible throughout<\/p>\n<p>his career, from his days opposing Great Society programs to his battles<\/p>\n<p>to preserve welfare (always in the interests of maintaining an existing<\/p>\n<p>social structure). Some modern leftists are Burkeans, in their efforts<\/p>\n<p>to conserve indigenous cultures against markets. The IMF and the World<\/p>\n<p>Bank remind me of the British Raj&#8212;they are arrogant purveyors<\/p>\n<p>of a rationalist philosophy that will backfire in distant lands. I&#8217;d<\/p>\n<p>vote Green, just to shock people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Edward Gibbon<\/strong>: The Roman Republic exemplified the<\/p>\n<p>main civic virtues: patriotism, military discipline, sobriety, love<\/p>\n<p>of the common good, and worldly reason. These virtues were undermined<\/p>\n<p>by Christianity, which was other-worldly, pacifistic, superstitious,<\/p>\n<p>and hostile to national pride. I have a soft spot for your deist Founding<\/p>\n<p>Fathers, but I can&#8217;t find anyone to like these days. Conservatives share<\/p>\n<p>my list of virtues, but they&#8217;re revoltingly pious. Things continue to<\/p>\n<p>decline and fall.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thomas Jefferson:<\/strong> The New Dealers used to like me<\/p>\n<p>because I was a civil libertarian and a political populist. They built<\/p>\n<p>me a nice monument. Now conservatives love to quote statements of mine<\/p>\n<p>like &quot;That government is best which governs least.&quot; But I&#8217;ve<\/p>\n<p>given up on politics. I don&#8217;t know what to make of a society in which<\/p>\n<p>independent family farmers represent much less than one percent of the<\/p>\n<p>population. I was surprised when governments started enacting expensive<\/p>\n<p>programs with the intention of benefiting ordinary people; that never<\/p>\n<p>happened before 1850. Did the programs of the Progressive Era and the<\/p>\n<p>New Deal represent popular will, or did they interfere excessively in<\/p>\n<p>private life? I can&#8217;t decide. In any case, my own dead hand should not<\/p>\n<p>weigh heavily on the living, so I advise you to ignore any advice I<\/p>\n<p>gave in my own lifetime. I now spend my whole time working on labor-saving<\/p>\n<p>gadgets.<\/p>\n<p><strong>James Madison:<\/strong> I sought to construct a political system<\/p>\n<p>that would tame the ruling class (to which I admit that I belonged)<\/p>\n<p>and align our interests with those of the broad public. The ruling elite<\/p>\n<p>in my day included Southern planters and Northern traders, manufacturers,<\/p>\n<p>and bankers. They had reasons to care about their own families&#8217; reputations<\/p>\n<p>(especially locally), and thus could be induced to play constructive<\/p>\n<p>roles. Also, they had conflicting interests: planters stood on the opposite<\/p>\n<p>side of many issues from manufacturers and shippers. Thus each group<\/p>\n<p>could be persuaded to check the worst ambitions of the others. I expected<\/p>\n<p>men of my class to hold all the offices in an elaborate system of mutually<\/p>\n<p>competitive institutions. They would seize opportunities to feather<\/p>\n<p>their own nests, but they would also care about the long-term prospects<\/p>\n<p>of their home communities, the institutions within which they served,<\/p>\n<p>and the United States. Therefore, they would act in reasonably public-spirited<\/p>\n<p>ways. In contrast, today&#8217;s ruling class consists of large, publicly<\/p>\n<p>traded corporations. They have no concern with their political reputations,<\/p>\n<p>and no loyalty to communities or the nation. You moderns need to look<\/p>\n<p>for a different mechanism for inducing today&#8217;s ruling class to serve<\/p>\n<p>public purposes. I do not view the system that I created as adequate<\/p>\n<p>for that purpose. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Jean-Jacques Rousseau: <\/strong>All patriotic, decent people<\/p>\n<p>have the same interests and goals. Disagreements arise because people<\/p>\n<p>chatter together privately in little groups or factions, and also because<\/p>\n<p>some people mislead others with their clever rhetoric. A perfect democracy<\/p>\n<p>would have no factions and no debate. I am heartened to read in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deliberative-democracy.net\/mt\/archives\/000050.html\">book<\/p>\n<p>by Hibbing and Morse <\/a>that millions of Americans are Rousseauians.<\/p>\n<p>They hate political debate, parties, legislatures, and professional<\/p>\n<p>politicians, for they realize that all decent people have the same interests.<\/p>\n<p>I like this Schwartzenegger fellow; he seems so <em>natural<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tom Paine:<\/strong> Most Americans still agree with me, and<\/p>\n<p>yet the aristocrats run things. I&#8217;m going to endorse Dean.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Adam Smith:<\/strong> Everyone realizes now that international<\/p>\n<p>trade creates wealth, that markets encourage specialization (and thus<\/p>\n<p>efficiency), and that official monopolies and trade barriers are bad<\/p>\n<p>for the economy. Fewer people pay attention to my moral philosophy and<\/p>\n<p>my account of civil society. I get plenty of praise, but some of it<\/p>\n<p>from embarrassing quarters.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Written while stuck in the Manchester, NH, airport, and posted on Thursday): Imagine that some of the major political philosophers of the eighteenth century are observing modern politics from their permanent perches in Limbo. What would they say? 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