{"id":4144,"date":"2003-02-14T16:29:12","date_gmt":"2003-02-14T16:29:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=4144"},"modified":"2003-02-14T16:29:12","modified_gmt":"2003-02-14T16:29:12","slug":"european-anti-americanism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=4144","title":{"rendered":"European anti-Americanism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This blog is becoming interactive! My friend Lars Hasselblad Torres sent<\/p>\n<p>me the following email, which I quote with his permission: &quot;Hey peter,<\/p>\n<p>scouted out your blog today, and noted your <a href=\"#antiwar\">irritation<\/p>\n<p>with European anti-war movement<\/a>. Is it safe to say their anti-americanism,<\/p>\n<p>or is it their tactics to get in the way of Bush policy? Anyway, thought<\/p>\n<p>you might find &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ceip.org\/files\/publications\/Kagan_ParadiseandPower.asp\">of<\/p>\n<p>paradise and power: america and europe in the new world order<\/a>&#8216; of<\/p>\n<p>interest: robert kagan lays out a hobbesian vs. kantian mood form each.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Lars then followed up with a set of good references to the whole question<\/p>\n<p>of US-European relations, including this link to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fpa.org\/newsletter_info2583\/newsletter_info.htm?doc_id=147949\">Foreign<\/p>\n<p>Policy Association<\/a>. To Lars&#8217; list, I would add Timothy Garten Ash&#8217;s<\/p>\n<p>good <i>New York Review <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nybooks.com\/articles\/16059\">piece<\/a><\/p>\n<p>that collects virulently anti-European comments by senior US officials.<\/p>\n<p>These are at least as inflammatory and unjustified as the anti-American<\/p>\n<p>comments that set me off.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose my suspicions about European anti-Americanism were born a long<\/p>\n<p>time ago, especially in graduate school in England. There&#8217;s a lot of bad<\/p>\n<p>faith and scapegoating on the European left: a desire to attribute bad<\/p>\n<p>things to the US when European countries are just as responsible. I also<\/p>\n<p>think that people on the European left tend to attribute undesirable features<\/p>\n<p>of American life to something intrinsic and cultural about us&#151;for<\/p>\n<p>instance, &quot;American individualism&quot;&#151;when the causes of our<\/p>\n<p>problems apply to them as well. Three examples:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I was in Britain when American teenagers started mass shootings in\n<p>high schools. Universally, British pundits attributed these crimes to<\/p>\n<p>a profound sickness in US culture. I would have said that the &quot;epidemic&quot;<\/p>\n<p>of school shootings (which involved about 1 in every ten million students)<\/p>\n<p>was not a symptom of anything; it was a copy-cat phenemonon. Indeed,<\/p>\n<p>copy-cat school killers subsequently turned up in France, Scotland,<\/p>\n<p>and Germany.<\/li>\n<li>European critics generally analyze vulgar popular culture as a reflection\n<p>of American culture, although European and Japanese firms generate a<\/p>\n<p>considerable amount of it; the US also produces a mighty stream of <i>high<\/p>\n<p><\/i>culture; and the demand for the worst products is global. So I think<\/p>\n<p>it&#8217;s largely irrelevant to interpret Hollywood and pop music as &quot;American&quot;<\/p>\n<p>phenomena.<\/li>\n<li>Our social policy is more conservative than the norm in European,\n<p>although the gap is not as big as Europeans tend to think. (They focus<\/p>\n<p>on the federal government and don&#8217;t realize that our states take 8.5<\/p>\n<p>percent of GNP in taxes and spend it on domestic programs. As a result,<\/p>\n<p>the government&#8217;s share of GNP is almost exactly the same&#151;30 percent&#151;in<\/p>\n<p>the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.econlib.org\/library\/Enc\/GovernmentSpending.html\">US<\/p>\n<p>and in Sweden<\/a>.) In any case, I do not believe that our social policy<\/p>\n<p>is more conservative because of American individualism or some other<\/p>\n<p>feature of our culture. We have a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.census.gov\/hhes\/income\/4person.html\">median<\/p>\n<p>family income of $62,228<\/a> (for 4-person families). At that level,<\/p>\n<p>people don&#8217;t believe that they will benefit from social spending, except<\/p>\n<p>to support retirement and local public education. Hence the solid support<\/p>\n<p>for Social Security and Medicare and local education. In Europe, median<\/p>\n<p>family incomes are lower&#151;but rising. Hence the political center<\/p>\n<p>in Europe is gradually drifting right, and will not stop soon.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Which brings us to the current debate about Iraq. I think the French<\/p>\n<p>and others are completely right that we should postpone an invasion and<\/p>\n<p>try to strengthen the inspections. But to what extent is this difference<\/p>\n<p>of opinion a result of a cultural gap between the Europeans (allegedly<\/p>\n<p>&quot;from Venus&quot;) and the Americans (&quot;from Mars&quot;)? The<\/p>\n<p>US has an offensive military capacity that the Europeans lack, singly<\/p>\n<p>and collectively. So perhaps the US <i>must<\/i> play bad cop in order<\/p>\n<p>to allow the Europeans to play good cop. Absent a military threat from<\/p>\n<p>the US, there would be no inspections, and the Saddam regime would go<\/p>\n<p>completely unchecked and unchallenged. This would be morally unacceptable<\/p>\n<p>to the European left, especially if European companies continued to do<\/p>\n<p>profitable business with Iraq. If this is right, then there are not different<\/p>\n<p>cultures on either side of the Atlantic. Rather, the West is one culture;<\/p>\n<p>it relies on a powerful military that happens to be headquartered in the<\/p>\n<p>USA.<\/p>\n<p>None of which excuses the ham-handed and sometimes offensive way in which<\/p>\n<p>Rumsfeld and other Bushies handle diplomacy &#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This blog is becoming interactive! My friend Lars Hasselblad Torres sent me the following email, which I quote with his permission: &quot;Hey peter, scouted out your blog today, and noted your irritation with European anti-war movement. Is it safe to say their anti-americanism, or is it their tactics to get in the way of Bush [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-iraq-and-democratic-theory"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4144"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4144\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}