{"id":12602,"date":"2013-10-16T08:55:32","date_gmt":"2013-10-16T12:55:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=12602"},"modified":"2013-10-16T08:55:32","modified_gmt":"2013-10-16T12:55:32","slug":"talking-about-the-pledge-of-allegiance-on-tell-me-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/?p=12602","title":{"rendered":"talking about the Pledge of Allegiance on &#8220;Tell Me More&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On NPR&#8217;s &#8220;Tell Me More&#8221; recently, I discussed the Pledge of Allegiance with host Michel Martin and reporter Mary Plummer from KPCC in Pasadena. At one point, Martin asked me whether I would replace the Pledge with something &#8220;better.&#8221; I replied that I am not necessarily against it, &#8220;but I do think there is something more important, which is actually to have a conversation, an appreciative conversation but a thoughtful conversation, about what &#8216;liberty and justice for all&#8217; means&#8211;to actually take some of those words like &#8216;liberty&#8217; and &#8216;justice,&#8217; which are very complicated and controversial, and talk about them and understand them.&#8221;<br \/>\n<object width=\"400\" height=\"386\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/v2\/?i=232164841&amp;m=232164854&amp;t=audio\" \/><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"opaque\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"base\" value=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\" \/><embed width=\"400\" height=\"386\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/v2\/?i=232164841&amp;m=232164854&amp;t=audio\" wmode=\"opaque\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" base=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On NPR&#8217;s &#8220;Tell Me More&#8221; recently, I discussed the Pledge of Allegiance with host Michel Martin and reporter Mary Plummer from KPCC in Pasadena. At one point, Martin asked me whether I would replace the Pledge with something &#8220;better.&#8221; I replied that I am not necessarily against it, &#8220;but I do think there is something [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12602","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-advocating-civic-education"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12602","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12602"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12602\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12607,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12602\/revisions\/12607"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12602"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12602"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterlevine.ws\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12602"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}